I mean Joss Whedon literally got away with having a male character call a woman a “whiny cunt” but because it was in Ye Olde English it went over the censors heads and everyone one tumblr fucking ate it up and you call that dork a fucking feminist? please miss me with that bullshit
writers are not their characters
Are you trying to say that what happens in movies, games and comics isn’t real?
Of course they are real! If an author writes a character committing murder, it’s literally the same as if that author got away with murder!
This is a very difficult week. Do we like Joss Whedon because he thinks everyone who supports equal rights for women is a feminist, or hate him because one of his characters said cunt once?
hate him dislike him (hate is a strong word I’m sure he’s a ~*great*~ guy) because he hates the word “feminist” (I’m not even exaggerating he lit’rally said he did, down to the use of the word “hate”) and because he thinks that we live in world that is beyond racism, sexism, etc.
(Remember that time his Asian-American sister-in-law wrote a song called “Nobody’s Asian in the Movies” for one of his movies? Do you think she’d agree that we are past issues of race and gender?)
hate him are not sure why he thinks his opinions on the language of feminism are relevant and we are confused as to why he’s trying to prescribe the new label of “genderist” when we already have the term “sexist.” We are also unsure why he’s trying to tell women how to frame gender issues at all when he is not in fact a woman.
Personally, I think the whole hating “feminist” and wanting to use “genderist” thing is ridiculous so I’m not going to argue there. But i do want to address your question about why does he thinks his opinions on feminism/language of feminism are relevant. It’s because the media makes them relevant. It’s because people ask him over and over again "why do you write these strong women characters?"
(Joss’s main role model growing up was his mother, Lee — a very staunch feminist who taught/inspired Jessica Neuwirth and was a great support to her when she was starting up Equality Now with her partners. Lee passed away before it was fully launched and Joss has been very vocal in his support for it, thus most of the fan charity projects (like Can’t Stop the Serenity) donate their money to Equality Now. And, thus, he is asked to speak at several of their events like the one at which he gave this speech.)
And that “strong female characters” speech, while done for effect, is not that much of hyperbole. I’ve read just about every interview with Joss that I could find and it really is overwhelming when you see how many times “feminist/feminism/strong female characters” are mentioned. He’s defined as feminist (often self-defined), asked about feminism in this way of “you are a MAN, why are YOU such a feminist?.” and held up on this pedestal for creating BUFFY, THE FEMINIST ICON. And he’s asked to explain things like why feminism is such a difficult thing for people and why it’s so difficult to get a female superhero movie made. Need a quote about feminism in an article? Go ask Joss Whedon.
I’m not saying that he hasn’t courted some of it — he certainly has. But Buffy premiered in 1997 — that’s 16 years of him being vocal about pushing a feminist agenda, especially in a time when you didn’t hear many proudly proclaiming themselves a feminist. (Even today, it’s still treated like a dirty word, “i’m not a feminist because…” — and before anyone jumps on me for all the social/classist/racist etc reasons one refuses to call themselves a feminist and align themselves with the “feminist movement.” the statement is usually ended with something like, “i don’t think women are better than men. we’re all equal!” which misses the idea entirely.) So, does Joss get a cookie for thinking ladies are just as important as men? No. But I’ll give him some kudos for saying it and calling out the importance of representation in the face of Marvel, which is his home but has no lady superhero films in development and has Stan Lee saying things like "The thing is the women like these movies as much as the guys, so we don’t have to knock ourselves out to find a female."
I completely understand the issues that people have with Joss, and in particular, Joss and feminism. But I don’t think that he is pushing his way out onto every available bully pulpit to expound upon his views on feminism. The problem, to me, is not that Joss talks about feminism but that he’s become the de facto voice for it in Hollywood because much of the media is too lazy to seek out more people to add many more diverse voices into an important conversation.